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Russell Cloon
Franklin County, KS Lawyer
Free ConsultationBankruptcy
University of Kansas School of Law
I am a consumer bankruptcy attorney. I was previously located in Baldwin City, KS but in August of 2017 we relocated to our new office in Ottawa. I have filed well over 3,000 consumer bankruptcy cases (Chapter 7 and Chapter 13), and I think the only other Kansas lawyers who have filed more than that are all deceased (but I could be wrong).
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Dale Ream
Franklin County, KS Lawyer with 28 years of experience
IP, Patents and Trademarks
University of Kansas School of Law
Dale has spent his entire professional career working with and for inventors. He has been a registered patent attorney for seventeen years and has prosecuted hundreds of patent applications of all types to issuance. Dale has been very successful at making winning arguments to patent examiners that result in patent issuance. In addition, Dale is an excellent and personable communicator with his clients.
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Blaine Finch
Franklin County, KS Lawyer with 21 years of experience
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David Adams
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 33 years of experience
Free ConsultationBankruptcy
University of Kansas School of Law
30 years experience handling personal injury (auto accident, slip and fall, malpractice, other negligence) and bankruptcy (Ch 7 & Ch 13) cases. BBB accredited, friendly, professional representation. History of excellent trial and jury verdicts. Highly reviewed and recommended by Google and Yahoo users. No history of any ethical complaints or sanctions. Member of the Kansas Bar Association, Johnson County Bar Association and Christian Legal Society.
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Matthew T. Kincaid
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 12 years of experience
Business, Employment, Real Estate and Trademarks
University of Kansas School of Law and University of Kansas School of Law
Matthew is a motivated and experienced attorney. He's a Kansas City metro area native and resident who is licensed to practice on both sides of the state line. He enjoys working with entrepreneurs as well as those who have an interest or a need in real estate. At his core, Matt is a cost-effective and creative problem solver.
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Jeff Donoho
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 14 years of experience
(816) 527-9447
2000 Shawnee Mission Parkway
Suite 210
Mission Woods, KS 66205
Free ConsultationBusiness
University of Missouri - Kansas City School of Law
Jeff Donoho began his legal career as a judicial law clerk for two different trial judges in Jackson County, Missouri. As a judicial law clerk, Jeff was exposed to a broad assortment of legal disputes and issues, ranging from minor property line disputes to multi-million dollar commercial and class action lawsuits. Following his clerkship, Jeff worked for another local law firm handling complex medical malpractice, legal malpractice, commercial litigation, and various insurance related lawsuits, as well as defending professional licensees in investigations conducted by state licensing boards. Jeff has litigation, administrative, and appellate experience handling these complex matters. Though a...
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Malissa L. Walden
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 21 years of experience
Free ConsultationBankruptcy
University of Kansas School of Law
Malissa L. Walden is a native Kansan with an international perspective. After years of living abroad, she returned to pursue her life-long dream of helping others through the practice of law. She has dedicated her career to public service and fully understands the needs of her clients.
Ms. Walden's main area of practice is asset protection through Bankruptcy; Chapter 7 and Chapter 13. She is here to help people.
Not only was Ms. Walden the first attorney at her firm to practice under the new Bankruptcy Code; she also assisted attorneys across the state to become Electronic Case Filing compliant. Due...
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Robert R. Titus
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 11 years of experience
Free ConsultationConsumer and Real Estate
University of Tulsa
Henry David Thoreau said it best by stating, “the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation, and go to the grave with the song still in them.” Robert Titus is one of the rare people that will die with no songs left in his heart. A natural extrovert with a passion for the courtroom, Rob’s greatest asset is his ability to connect with people.
Out of law school, Rob worked at one of the biggest oil companies in America as a landman. He ended up as in-house counsel in Kansas working for a top ten oil producer. The great...
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Christopher Joseph
Douglas County, KS Lawyer with 24 years of experience
Appeals and White Collar Crime
University of Kansas
Christopher (Chris) Joseph is the Managing Member of Joseph, Hollander & Craft LLC, where he chairs the firm’s criminal defense practice group. His practice involves criminal defense and civil litigation in federal and state courts across Kansas. Chris defends individuals facing federal criminal charges and high-level state felony charges and counsels individuals and businesses subject to government investigations. Chris also has ample experience litigating civil asset forfeiture matters.
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Jason Roth
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 23 years of experience
Free ConsultationProducts Liability
University of Kansas School of Law
Mr. Roth practices in all areas of civil litigation, with a focus on serious personal injury and wrongful death. For nearly a decade Jason practiced civil defense litigation. Jason has represented some of the largest insurance companies, corporations, and trucking companies. In doing so, he honed his talents and skills as an attorney. The experience also provides him with insight and experience on how these entities operate, perceive those that have been injured, and the pursuit of compensation through the claim, lawsuit, and trial process. Now Jason's practice is dedicated almost exclusively to representing individual clients who have been injured,...
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Mit Winter
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 19 years of experience
(816) 527-9447
2000 Shawnee Mission Parkway
Suite 210
Mission Woods, KS 66205
Business
University of San Francisco School of Law
Mit Winter focuses his practice on helping businesses of all types and sizes navigate complex challenges, with considerable experience assisting companies in general commercial litigation and business disputes, class action litigation, intellectual property matters, and a broad array of collegiate sports matters.
Prior to joining Kennyhertz Perry, Mit worked for two different Am Law 100 firms in San Francisco and Kansas City, most recently as a shareholder in the commercial litigation group at Polsinelli. In that capacity, he represented a wide variety of clients in class action, intellectual property, and general business litigation matters and was identified by Missouri &...
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Braden Perry
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 23 years of experience
(816) 527-9447
Ext. 8165279447
2000 Shawnee Mission Parkway
Suite 210
Mission Woods, KS 66205
Securities and White Collar Crime
University of Kansas School of Law
Braden Perry, is a regulatory and government investigations attorney with Kennyhertz Perry, LLC. Mr. Perry has the unique tripartite experience of a white collar criminal defense and government compliance, investigations, and litigation attorney at a national law firm; a senior enforcement attorney at a federal regulatory agency; and the Chief Compliance Officer/Chief Regulatory Attorney of a global financial institution. Mr. Perry has extensive experience advising clients in CFTC inquiries and investigations, particularly in enforcement matters involving data issues. He couples his technical knowledge and experience defending clients in front of federal agencies with a broad-based understanding of compliance from...
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John C. Kennyhertz
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 19 years of experience
(816) 527-9447
2000 Shawnee Mission Parkway
Suite 210
Mission Woods, KS 66205
Business, Real Estate, Securities and White Collar Crime
Washburn University School of Law
A Kansas City native, attorney John Kennyhertz previously served General Counsel for a Kansas City-based private equity firm, and now focuses his practice on business transactions and corporate law matters.
As an M&A lawyer, John has a unique set of skills and experience having represented parties on all sides of a transaction. In his former capacity as General Counsel, Mr. Kennyhertz was responsible for the oversight and management of the private equity firm’s non-real estate legal matters, as well as the risk management and compliance for each entity comprising the firm’s portfolio. Prior to this role, Mr....
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Adam Stolte
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 12 years of experience
Free ConsultationAppeals
Washburn University School of Law
Overland Park criminal defense attorney Adam D. Stolte is a highly trained and experienced litigator committed to defending the rights of individuals accused of drunk driving and other crimes. It was during his time in the Navy working as a cryptologic technician that he realized his analytical and problem-solving skills would serve him well as an attorney. Since his graduation from the Washburn University School of Law, Mr. Stolte has his legal career fighting for the rights of individuals who have been accused of crimes in Kansas, with a focus on DUI cases. To meet with Mr. Stolte and discuss...
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Eric G Jensen
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 30 years of experience
Free ConsultationProducts Liability
University of Missouri - Kansas City School of Law
I have been practicing in Missouri and Kansas since 1994. I handle products liability, semi-truck accident, wrongful death and serious personal injury cases. We have offices in Springfield and Kansas City, Missouri. We handle cases all around the country.
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Jon Dedon
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 15 years of experience
(816) 527-9447
2000 Shawnee Mission Parkway
Suite 210
Mission Woods, KS 66205
Appeals and Business
The University of Texas School of Law
Kennyhertz Perry attorney Jon Dedon previously worked in the complex litigation division of an AmLaw 100 law firm. Currently, he advises clients on medical marijuana regulatory and corporate structural matters. His contacts with executives in marijuana businesses in Washington, California, Michigan, New York, and California, as well as internationally in Germany, Canada, Colombia, and Australia prove valuable when advising clients regarding medical marijuana in Missouri. In addition, Jon’s relationship with the DHSS allows clients to seek clarification on elements of the application process that may be unclear.
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Robert Samuel Bruer
Douglas County, KS Attorney with 29 years of experience
Free ConsultationAppeals, Business, Insurance Claims and Products Liability
University of Missouri - Columbia
Rob Bruer has been in practice in the Kansas City area for more than two decades, working on hundreds of cases in a wide range of matters. Rob has represented clients before the United States Court of Appeals and the state and federal courts in Kansas and Missouri, as well in Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, and Nevada. He is a member of the Missouri and Kansas Bar Associations, the Kansas Association for Justice, the Missouri Association of Trial Attorneys, and the Kansas City Metropolitan Bar Association. He has been recognized as AV-Rated, a Super Lawyer in...
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Mr. Ronald W. Nelson
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 43 years of experience
(913) 312-2500
7501 College Boulevard
Suite 105
Overland Park, KS 66210
Appeals
Washburn University School of Law
Ronald W. Nelson is the principal of Ronald W Nelson PA, which has its offices in Lenexa, Kansas. He graduated from Kansas State University in 1978 (B.S. Political Science, minor in Biology) and from Washburn University School of Law in 1981 (J.D., with honors). He began practicing law in 1981 and has been practicing family law exclusively for over 25 years.
Mr. Nelson is recognized throughout Kansas and the United States as an expert in family law. He regularly writes articles for regional and national legal publications and he frequently presents seminars on complex family law issues to lawyers' groups in...
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Paul Darrell Cramm
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 24 years of experience
(913) 322-3265
7450 West 130th Street
Suite #305
Overland Park, KS 66213
Free ConsultationAppeals
University of Kansas School of Law
Facing a criminal charge is ALWAYS a serious matter requiring serious defense. My Overland Park, Kansas, criminal defense practice takes every case seriously. As an experienced Johnson County Criminal Defense lawyer, I know that even a misdemeanor can have a devastating effect upon your life. In my practice, there is no such thing as a simple criminal matter.
From DUI and Drug Charges to Vehicular Homicide, Involuntary Manslaughter and Premeditated Murder, in Municipal, State or Federal Court, I provide defense of all criminal matters in Johnson County, Kansas, and the entire Kansas City Metro Area
When you are charged with a...
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Jill A Michaux
Shawnee County, KS Attorney with 42 years of experience
Bankruptcy
Washburn University School of Law
Topeka's only consumer bankruptcy law specialists
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Kevin J. McManus
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 18 years of experience
Free ConsultationEmployment
Saint Louis University School of Law
Attorney Kevin J. McManus is a personal injury attorney and long-term disability lawyer licensed in Missouri and Kansas. His firm represents those who have been injured or harmed due to the negligence of another, whether in a car accident, slip and fall, nursing home or other injury accident. In addition, we help those who have been denied long-term disability insurance recover the benefits they deserve. Our firm is dedicated to our clients' success and to maximizing their recovery from their injury or accident.
We believe that the more information our clients have, the better choices they can make, so...
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Yanky Perelmuter
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 9 years of experience
Free ConsultationImmigration
Salmon P. Chase College of Law, Northern Kentucky University
Yanky Perelmuter started his legal career at one of the fastest growing corporations in the United States, an Inc. 5000 and Fast 55 company. There he learned the intricacies of law and business from some of the most talented and capable lawyers and business people in the United States. Since then he has proven to be an extremely capable and expert lawyer.
Yanky believes we all have an obligation to make the world a better place, and that by positively impacting the life of a single person we can change outcomes for many people. That is why he became a lawyer...
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Christopher Ray
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 10 years of experience
(913) 735-3728
P.O. Box 13081
P.O. Box 13081
Overland Park, KS 66282-3081
Free ConsultationAdministrative and Employment
Washburn University School of Law
I have spent my career focusing on advocating for my clients in court and before administrative bodies. The main portion of my practice focuses on Criminal Law, however, I have put my litigation experience to use for government entities, landlords, and those going through family/domestic legal issues.
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Nicholas David
Douglas County, KS Attorney with 10 years of experience
Free ConsultationAppeals
University of Kansas School of Law
Nick David opened the David Law Office in 2014 to devote his legal career to fighting for people who need someone on their side.
As a criminal defense attorney, Nick has represented clients on serious felony charges as well as misdemeanors including murder, rape, aggravated robbery, aggravated battery, burglary, criminal possession of firearms, driving under the influence (DUI), domestic violence, as well as drug offenses. On any given day, you may find Nick defending his clients throughout criminal justice process from trying cases to a jury, negotiating pleas, and preparing briefs for the Court of Appeals and Kansas Supreme Court....
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Andrew L. Speicher
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 23 years of experience
Free ConsultationBusiness, Insurance Claims and Products Liability
Drake University Law School
At the law firm of Morefield Speicher Bachman, LC we serve individuals who have suffered personal injuries, traumatic brain injuries, or the loss of a loved one from wrongful death. Our lawyers also serve individuals and businesses facing issues involving construction law, business law and litigation, motor vehicle and truck accidents, insurance coverage disputes, and breach of contract. Our business and personal injury lawyers help clients solve legal problems in the greater Kansas City area and throughout Kansas and Missouri. Each of our lawyers is licensed to practice law in the state and federal courts of...
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Kristina S Crump
Douglas County, KS Attorney with 13 years of experience
Free ConsultationBankruptcy
University of Kansas School of Law
Kristina received a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science and History from Our Lady of the Lake University, San Antonio, Texas. She received an MBA at Baker University and graduated from the Law School at the University of Kansas in 2009. Kristina has extensive experience working with people who have financial difficulties. Before practicing law, Kristina was a Case Management Director at ECKAN, a community action center dedicated to assisting people in need in East Central Kansas.
Kristina focuses exclusively on bankruptcy. She brings her non-profit experience to the table when helping her clients. Kristina is married with three children.
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John Harper
Douglas County, KS Attorney with 18 years of experience
Free ConsultationBankruptcy
Washburn University School of Law
While attending Washburn School of Law, I worked as a paralegal in the office of a bankruptcy attorney. Since 2006, I have been actively engaged in the practice of consumer bankruptcy law. I enjoy working with individuals and helping them get a fresh financial start. I know how to help. So I do that exclusively. Although I am located in Topeka, KS (where the U.S. Bankruptcy Court is located), the law firm helps individuals from all over Kansas. Just give us a call at 785/783-2360. At age 15, three of my friends and I started a punk rock...
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Tina L Cox-Vega
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 24 years of experience
(913) 856-7596
510 W Main St, Suite A
PO Box 241
Gardner, KS 66030-0241
Arbitration & Mediation and Business
University of Kansas School of Law
Tina Cox is a Partner at Stange Law Firm, PC who is used to helping families through these difficult times. Tina helps in managing the West Region of the firm in Overland Park, Lee’s Summit, Springfield (MO), Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Wichita, Topeka, and Kansas City (by appointment only).
Tina graduated with her undergraduate degree in Economics and Finance from Washburn University. She graduated Magna Cum Laude and a member of the Omicron Delta Epsilon International Economics Honor Society. She then went on to further her education and receive her Master’s Degree in Business Administration as well as her Juris Doctor from...
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John R Bednarz
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 16 years of experience
Free ConsultationIP and Patents
Syracuse University College of Law
John is a patent attorney with a background in computer science and enjoys working with inventors and entrepreneurs to assist in protecting their intellectual property.
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Samuel M. Wendt
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 21 years of experience
7300 West 110th Street
Suite 700
Overland Park, KS 66210
Free ConsultationProducts Liability
Washburn University
Samuel M. Wendt of Wendt Goss, P.C. is a Kansas City personal injury attorney. Before attending law school, he received his Bachelor of Science in Cellular Biology, which now serves to benefit his complex litigation cases. He has received the honor of an AV Preeminent™ Rating on Martindale-Hubbell® as well as other distinctions such as “Best of the Bar” in 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2012 by Kansas City Business Journal and listed to both the Kansas and Missouri Super Lawyer® list. He is admitted to practice law in Kansas, Missouri and Illinois. Mr. Wendt has handled a wide array of...
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Chelsea Dickerson
Johnson County, KS Lawyer
Free ConsultationProducts Liability
Creighton University School of Law
Chelsea Dickerson is a partner at Dickerson Oxton, LLC - a personal injury law firm in Kansas City. Chelsea is experienced in handling serious injury cases including automobile accidents, trucking accidents, burn injuries, medical malpractice, wrongful death, and more.
Visit Dickerson Oxton, LLC website to contact Chelsea and her team for an initial case evaluation! Let our family help yours!
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Jonathan Davis
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 19 years of experience
(913) 693-8027
7500 College Blvd, Suite 500
*By Appointment Only
Overland Park, KS 66210
Free ConsultationBusiness
University of Kansas School of Law
Jon works closely with local, regional and national businesses on their comprehensive legal and risk management needs. He also represents his clients as an aggressive advocate after claims have been made. Jon has extensive experience representing both small and mid-size businesses, doctors, hospitals, dentists, oral surgeons, architects and engineers. Jon litigates a broad range of state and federal cases including medical and dental malpractice, wrongful death, design defect, fraud and misrepresentation. Prior to disputes, he works closely with his clients to manage risk. He has defended a broad spectrum of clients which includes prominent individuals, Fortune 500 companies, regional...
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Sheila Seck
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 30 years of experience
(913) 815-8481
7285 West 132nd Street
Suite 240
Overland Park, KS 66213
Free ConsultationBusiness, IP and Trademarks
Washington University in St. Louis
Sheila focuses her practice on assisting entrepreneurs as they launch their business and encounter change as they grow. She works closely with growing companies, established businesses, and investors to develop solutions to the broad range of challenges they encounter in running their businesses. She works with clients on managing founder relationships and ownership issues, corporate governance for new and established companies, protecting intellectual property, financing issues, including state and federal securities laws, and preparing business owners to sell their companies. Sheila works with many companies as they prepare to sell their business or acquire new ones by advising...
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Cassie Pfannenstiel Rodriguez
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 20 years of experience
Free ConsultationBankruptcy
University of Kansas School of Law
Cassie is proud to help individuals and families protect their assets while providing debt relief. Cassie enjoys the opportunity to meet with potential clients during the consultation to educate them on the bankruptcy process and explore whether bankruptcy is the best solution to their particular circumstances. She understands everyone is facing a different situation and talking through how bankruptcy can help or not is essential for people to make an educated decision regarding their finances. Cassie realizes many people coming into her office are not familiar with bankruptcy so she always walks people through the basics and then gets into...
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Diane Lynn Bellquist
Shawnee County, KS Attorney with 22 years of experience
Free ConsultationAdministrative, Business and Insurance Defense
University of Kansas
With over 10 years’ experience working for regulatory agencies of the State of Kansas, Ms. Bellquist now utilizes her government experience to defend licensed individuals and entities before their respective regulatory boards. Her practice includes appealing application denials, responding in investigations of complaints, negotiating settlement agreements, defending against allegations in formal disciplinary proceedings, and petitioning for judicial review of agency actions. Ms. Bellquist has a thorough understanding of the Kansas Administrative Procedures Act and the Kansas Judicial Review Act. Having the experience as an insider in these governmental agencies, she has the unique practical advantage of having already-established relationships with...
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Scott C. Stockwell
Douglas County, KS Lawyer with 40 years of experience
Free ConsultationBusiness
University of Kansas School of Law and Kansas State University
Scott C. Stockwell has a general practice of law with a focus in estate planning, probate, business law serving the Lawrence, Kansas and Douglas County, Kansas area as well as the surrounding counties of Jefferson, Leavenworth, Wyandotte, Johnson, Franklin, Osage, and Shawnee. Scott is a 1984 J.D. graduate of the University of Kansas School of Law in Lawrence, Kansas, a 2015 M.B.A. graduate of the W. P. Carey School of Business in Tempe, Arizona and a 1981 B.A. graduate of Kansas State University in Manhattan, Kansas.
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Sara Tess Ballew
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 12 years of experience
Free ConsultationEmployment
University of Kansas School of Law
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Andrew Amberg Woellner
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 17 years of experience
Free ConsultationUniversity of Houston Law Center
As a Partner at The Potts Law Firm, Andrew Woellner uses his litigation experience to represent clients in personal injury litigation, wage & hour litigation, and bad-faith insurance practices and claims handling matters.
After gaining his license to practice in 2007, Mr. Woellner joined the Houston office of a large regional law firm, where he successfully defended cases involving personal injury claims, business disputes, and first-party insurance claims. In this role, he gained valuable experience in resolving a large number of insurance disputes, including successfully recovering the highest percentage recovery of any insurer in a multi-million dollar subrogation matter. ...
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Timothy Pickell
Johnson County, KS Lawyer with 47 years of experience
Free ConsultationWorkers' Comp
University of Kansas School of Law
I have been practicing law in the Kansas City area for over 35 years. I am licensed in both Kansas and Missouri. I am blessed by a wonderful staff who work with me to provide personal, caring service to our clients. We make sure that what we are doing is clear to the client. We view our approach as “teamwork” oriented, which means our client’s help is essential. Our clients are kept 100% informed about their case. I have been involved in both community and legal volunteer work, including serving as President of the Johnson County Bar Association, the largest...
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Nicholas Steinwart
Johnson County, KS Attorney with 13 years of experience
Free ConsultationBankruptcy and Consumer
University of Kansas School of Law
I have concentrated my practice in bankruptcy, foreclosure and consumer debtor issues since graduating from law school. After graduation I practiced in Lawrence, Kansas with an older bankruptcy attorney. In 2014, I moved to Overland Park and started Steinwart Law Office, LLC. My favorite part of my work is helping save people's homes. In addition to bankruptcy and foreclosure work, I have learned the in's and out's of helping people get mortgage modifications. I have successfully completed modifications for clients who tried on their own to get a modification for up a year...